Concrete Constructions

If we have some time left over, we will make the fortifications double-sided, as we have noticed that players tend to rotate them to masquerade them as regular wood constructions. 

Boo!

Just kidding, the upcoming changes mentioned in the dev blog sound very exciting.

" We plan to place two or three concrete mixers next to construction sites on the map "

Bad idea about the mixers....this will be a constant stream of shit shows and endless wars that will benefit nobody. 
Especially not on militarized exile servers where jets can bomb it and tanks/artillery can bomb it with HE rounds.

Let the mixer thing be a feature admins can turn on/off.  Cuz 3 mixers on a 30+ pop server.....yeah

1 hour ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

Bad idea about the mixers....this will be a constant stream of shit shows and endless wars that will benefit nobody. 
Especially not on militarized exile servers where jets can bomb it and tanks/artillery can bomb it with HE rounds.

Let the mixer thing be a feature admins can turn on/off.  Cuz 3 mixers on a 30+ pop server.....yeah

If you want a concrete base, you better be ready for a showdown... Concrete bases aren't meant to be easy.

PVE servers it will just be another love fest .. please hold my hand while I make a wall , LOL .. gee I'm hot can someone bring me a water RFLOL
 

arma 2 Origins  had a concrete mixer.  You put the mats in it, and it gave you the product.. If I remember, you had to have to make your base itself

Also, it was red. Might help ppl remember

Think it will be more offline baseraids.

Please make it not to easy to get in a base. And i think on a high pop server 3 mixers are a little bit less. Maybe you can make that the server owner can place mixers where and how many he want.

Defiantly need to have the mixers self placed like traders 

Good idea! Love everything about it. The mixers, I can swear I saw them somewhere in the arma files, but can't for the life of me remember where

/edit: Think it was yellow...

/edit 2: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/File:Arma3_CfgVehicles_Land_cmp_Tower_F.jpg but that might be a little too large?

15 hours ago, BossMannAU said:

If you want a concrete base, you better be ready for a showdown... Concrete bases aren't meant to be easy.

I guess you never had a Blackfoot hover 2 clicks above you and hit you with a guided missile. Or had an A-10 dive at a vertical angle dropping a GBU on your ass. How about a BDM r1 Russian anti infantry missile system hitting you with a barrage of missiles. I understand the idea of it being hard and bringing forward more PvP. But the mixers shouldn't be a set rule but modifyable by the mods. I remember back in the arma 2 epoch days that people would have fight for over atleast 30 minutes if not longer for building supplies from a mission. But as so manny things, let it be modifyable. I remember the mods saying that they are pro-customizing and what not. 



 

23 minutes ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

But as so manny things, let it be modifyable

Yes, it will be. Just like the rest of Exile. If you have modified the server to work with high explosives and military machinery, then it is faaaaaaaar away from the game we designed and a change like this will be required

28 minutes ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

I guess you never had a Blackfoot hover 2 clicks above you and hit you with a guided missile. Or had an A-10 dive at a vertical angle dropping a GBU on your ass. How about a BDM r1 Russian anti infantry missile system hitting you with a barrage of missiles.

That's another issue entirely. Exile is Exile, not KOTH.

Why run Exile if you're going to unlock everything? Exile is meant to be a Survival PVP modification, not a "50,000 poptabs and a Lynx on spawn" abomination.

8 minutes ago, Eichi said:

Yes, it will be. Just like the rest of Exile. If you have modified the server to work with high explosives and military machinery, then it is faaaaaaaar away from the game we designed and a change like this will be required

Exactly. I mean i'll play anything from non militarized to mid to full. it's just that 3 mixers per map is kinda iffy if you take the player count on the server in consideration. Then again i agree it shouldn't be too easy to put down conrete bases left and right. 

6 minutes ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

it's just that 3 mixers per map is kinda iffy if you take the player count on the server in consideration

That is why I wrote "depending on the map size"  

Oh how bad is the idea of only 2 or 3 mixers on the map! let me count the ways!

This will be perfect for the travel/ spawn campers or those that either don't want to or can't be bothered to make a base but a real frustration for those that do like the building aspect, particularly those playing solo or in small groups. Bases are already reasonably easy to raid, a few well placed satchel charges and you're in, hardly a titanic feat of effort needed! Now they want to make it even easier to raid bases whilst making the base building a damn sight harder ? I don't get that at all ? defeats the object of building in the first place.

It's an utterly absurd idea to have that few on a map in my opinion and on fixed positions to boot. I am not sure where this idea came from ? Perhaps the server that the devs play on is all sweetness and light? It certainly is not on the one I play which, even on a really slow day, has 50 + players. I can see this being a serious bone of contention for many within the community.

If they insist on doing this then I would much rather see them being extremely rare items, mission specific even. Let the fight be over it's posession not some ass with a sniper rifle and no base sat on it scoring points for the sake of it because it's bolted down.

22 minutes ago, BossMannAU said:

That's another issue entirely. Exile is Exile, not KOTH.

Why run Exile if you're going to unlock everything? Exile is meant to be a Survival PVP modification, not a "50,000 poptabs and a Lynx on spawn" abomination.

Wel, that's one very own interpretation of survival Pvp....Then take away all military grade guns and armoured/gunner vehicles becuz i think if you're an exile that it's very unrealistic and highly unlikely that you'll find these things in real life or even obtain them cuz most likely the army has everything confiscated or Private millitary companies seized it. I seen a popular server die out cuz ifrits/striders were taken out and more civil cars where put in. 

Like i said before in a previous thread. Exile right now has not a set story mode of what it realy is except that you're stuck on a island and that you have to survive. From there on you can customize your server to whatever you think fits the Exile story.  

EDIT; Exile is happening in the EU. We have no gun rights, so finding guns in buildings is not gonna happen :P. Unless Exile happens somewhere in the US or Russia, i'll cease my case.

Sorry devs.. but this and weaker wood walls and the "Base Raiding Mad Easy" mentality is the end of Exile. These changes alienate a HUGE if not most of the community. For the life of me I cannot understand how you do not see the consequences of these changes. The SOLO LONEWOLF style of play is completely FK'd!!! COMPLETELY!! The two friends who play only a few nights a week.. FK'D! COMPLETELY! Yea yea yea... I know its customization by the server owner.. I just dont understand why the change has to be made to the entire game instead of the few crying for change cant just go to one of the "So called already changed and favorite and popular servers" that offer this already?????

Devs, listen to me please.. I love PVP dont get me wrong.. but this is exactly what will happen to your game. A player will grind to build a base.. only to have everything he has done.. taken, stolen or destroyed by large groups of server trolls!!! That play will not return to that server and most likely the game!! This will happen over and over and over and the Fun, Fast and easy Exile we know will slowly die off like all the other "Hardcore Survival Games" have!!!!! People play Exile now because it is Fun Fast and Easy, if you take that away.. THE GAME IS DONE!! Trust me when I tell you this.. these kiddies crying for the "Base Raiding Made Easy" are a bunch of Ritalin taking 12 yr olds who add absolutly NOTHING to the community and most likely will be back on COD Black Ops 3 in a matter of minutes! NOW I know there are older guys as myself who love the Idea of a hardcore survival game, but lets be honest with eachother, old guy to old guy.. these ideas are great and fun thinking only(only playable when the internet is out) but not for the community. NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY A "HARD GAME"!!!! AGAIN, I know the servers owners/admins can changes this back, which I have seen and heard of plenty that will immediately once the update hits. However, the damage could already have been done. Like I said Devs, these changes are detrimental to the Solo/Lonewolf style of play and for you to openly admit these changes are awesome and good without considering this HUGE section of the community, in my eyes is not good PR!

Weaker walls, physical poptabs and locations that will be camped to death.. all that right there completely fks the solo/lone wolf/small group of players!! Server trolls and huge clans win here!!! 

My suggestion, leave as is and let the server owners/admins make these changes for the very few who are crying for "Base Raiding Made Easy" "We Should be rewarded for running players off the server" "We should get something for stealing everything" "Whaha ahaha ahaha cry cry cyy" "The game has gotten boring" "I have $3.8 billion poptabs now what" "I wanna rekt someones base and make them rage quit" You know who I am talking about.. the sidechat keyboard big eballs warriors! The worthless nobodies to the community! YET YOU HAVE POINTED EXILE in a direction that does nothing BUT FAVOR THEIR LITTLE ATTENTION SPAN NEEDS!

This for me and alot of others may be the end of Exile! Oh and before you flame about how I am a weak PVE player and need to go play barbies.. The server I play on, the admins are active and actually have asked the entire community if they should do a hardcore server and what map it should be on... and the overwhelming response is YES YES YES!! Suggestions and ideas have been amazing..but with one regard.. that the current servers remain the same!! So this will be a separate server for those and ONLY those who want hardcore!! Seeeeeeeeeeee what happened there.. thats called public relations.. they asked! Now I know your vision of the game is yours and what you want is up to you.. I am just trying to shed some light on you direction and the consequences it brings.. bottom line.. 

THESE CHANGES WILL RUN OFF MOST IF NOT ALL SOLO PLAYERS!

Now I prepare for the barrage of flaming comments from the FEW who cry "Please reward us for running players off servers" "Ohh please please please make it easier for me to raid a base" "I rekt that noob so hard he left the server" Like I said, you are few and add nothing to this game or community! In-fact you are the cancer that will ruin the game! Enjoy! 

19 hours ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

Bad idea about the mixers....this will be a constant stream of shit shows and endless wars that will benefit nobody. 
Especially not on militarized exile servers where jets can bomb it and tanks/artillery can bomb it with HE rounds.

Let the mixer thing be a feature admins can turn on/off.  Cuz 3 mixers on a 30+ pop server.....yeah

Default Exile doesn't have "Tanks and Artillery with HE rounds"... 

1 hour ago, ViBrationNC said:

Sorry devs.. but this and weaker wood walls and the "Base Raiding Mad Easy" mentality is the end of Exile. These changes alienate a HUGE if not most of the community. For the life of me I cannot understand how you do not see the consequences of these changes. The SOLO LONEWOLF style of play is completely FK'd!!! COMPLETELY!! The two friends who play only a few nights a week.. FK'D! COMPLETELY! Yea yea yea... I know its customization by the server owner.. I just dont understand why the change has to be made to the entire game instead of the few crying for change cant just go to one of the "So called already changed and favorite and popular servers" that offer this already?????

Devs, listen to me please.. I love PVP dont get me wrong.. but this is exactly what will happen to your game. A player will grind to build a base.. only to have everything he has done.. taken, stolen or destroyed by large groups of server trolls!!! That play will not return to that server and most likely the game!! This will happen over and over and over and the Fun, Fast and easy Exile we know will slowly die off like all the other "Hardcore Survival Games" have!!!!! People play Exile now because it is Fun Fast and Easy, if you take that away.. THE GAME IS DONE!! Trust me when I tell you this.. these kiddies crying for the "Base Raiding Made Easy" are a bunch of Ritalin taking 12 yr olds who add absolutly NOTHING to the community and most likely will be back on COD Black Ops 3 in a matter of minutes! NOW I know there are older guys as myself who love the Idea of a hardcore survival game, but lets be honest with eachother, old guy to old guy.. these ideas are great and fun thinking only(only playable when the internet is out) but not for the community. NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY A "HARD GAME"!!!! AGAIN, I know the servers owners/admins can changes this back, which I have seen and heard of plenty that will immediately once the update hits. However, the damage could already have been done. Like I said Devs, these changes are detrimental to the Solo/Lonewolf style of play and for you to openly admit these changes are awesome and good without considering this HUGE section of the community, in my eyes is not good PR!

Weaker walls, physical poptabs and locations that will be camped to death.. all that right there completely fks the solo/lone wolf/small group of players!! Server trolls and huge clans win here!!! 

My suggestion, leave as is and let the server owners/admins make these changes for the very few who are crying for "Base Raiding Made Easy" "We Should be rewarded for running players off the server" "We should get something for stealing everything" "Whaha ahaha ahaha cry cry cyy" "The game has gotten boring" "I have $3.8 billion poptabs now what" "I wanna rekt someones base and make them rage quit" You know who I am talking about.. the sidechat keyboard big eballs warriors! The worthless nobodies to the community! YET YOU HAVE POINTED EXILE in a direction that does nothing BUT FAVOR THEIR LITTLE ATTENTION SPAN NEEDS!

This for me and alot of others may be the end of Exile! Oh and before you flame about how I am a weak PVE player and need to go play barbies.. The server I play on, the admins are active and actually have asked the entire community if they should do a hardcore server and what map it should be on... and the overwhelming response is YES YES YES!! Suggestions and ideas have been amazing..but with one regard.. that the current servers remain the same!! So this will be a separate server for those and ONLY those who want hardcore!! Seeeeeeeeeeee what happened there.. thats called public relations.. they asked! Now I know your vision of the game is yours and what you want is up to you.. I am just trying to shed some light on you direction and the consequences it brings.. bottom line.. 

THESE CHANGES WILL RUN OFF MOST IF NOT ALL SOLO PLAYERS!

 

Now I prepare for the barrage of flaming comments from the FEW who cry "Please reward us for running players off servers" "Ohh please please please make it easier for me to raid a base" "I rekt that noob so hard he left the server" Like I said, you are few and add nothing to this game or community! In-fact you are the cancer that will ruin the game! Enjoy! 

Not gonna lie, when i get to the point of wel established aka nice vehicle list in my virtual garage and have above 1 mill pop tabs. I just fly around in a jet or drive around in a tank rekting people. Cuz there is nothing else to do. You just get to that point where there is nothing else to do. This is why i'm backing down from Exile for now and i'm looking to join a Mil-sim unit where there is actual teamwork and gameplay instead of massive amounts of trolling and abusive stance against weaponry/game mechanics. But then again mil-sim is more co-op then online against other players.

How easy a base should be raidable is something the server owner can set in the parameters on the server i believe.
Back in arma 2 epoch i used to raid undestructable bases by rattling locks, sometimes you would sit there for an hour. Sometimes you would get the door unlocked after 6th try of putting in 3 digits in the doorlock. This is why i said everything that could be crucial to gameplay should be adjustable by the server owner to see how the community responds. 

Cuz just putting in changes without any feedback from the community is gonna be fatal. I have seen a community go downhill and perm quit cuz they never involved it's playerbase in changes so they left to another server. So i totally get your post above. I hope Exile is not gonna go downhill cuz imo it's the only awesome mod for arma 3 on survival. 

24 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said:

Default Exile doesn't have "Tanks and Artillery with HE rounds"... 

Default Exile doesn't have concrete mixers in the open to build walls either....So what ?

5 minutes ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

Default Exile doesn't have concrete mixers in the open to build walls either....So what ?

Default Exile will have mixers in the open to craft walls... it won't have Tanks with HE rounds... that's 'what'.

15 minutes ago, Th3 R34p3r 187 said:

 

Not gonna lie, when i get to the point of wel established aka nice vehicle list in my virtual garage and have above 1 mill pop tabs. I just fly around in a jet or drive around in a tank rekting people. Cuz there is nothing else to do. You just get to that point where there is nothing else to do. This is why i'm backing down from Exile for now and i'm looking to join a Mil-sim unit where there is actual teamwork and gameplay instead of massive amounts of trolling and abusive stance against weaponry/game mechanics. But then again mil-sim is more co-op then online against other players.

How easy a base should be raidable is something the server owner can set in the parameters on the server i believe.
Back in arma 2 epoch i used to raid undestructable bases by rattling locks, sometimes you would sit there for an hour. Sometimes you would get the door unlocked after 6th try of putting in 3 digits in the doorlock. This is why i said everything that could be crucial to gameplay should be adjustable by the server owner to see how the community responds. 

Cuz just putting in changes without any feedback from the community is gonna be fatal. I have seen a community go downhill and perm quit cuz they never involved it's playerbase in changes so they left to another server. So i totally get your post above. I hope Exile is not gonna go downhill cuz imo it's the only awesome mod for arma 3 on survival. 

I agree... 

I mean.. you got the big house, gold rings, nice cars, pool, hot wife with fake tits.. etc.. now what? You enjoy life!! I get it..  So you buy a flag... build a nice base.. easy to defend.. put your cars inside.. safes with guns and poptabs.. so what do you do.. You can do whatever you want.. YOU MADE IT!! YOU'RE THERE.. RICH AND FAMOUS!! So lets say you attack someones base, "RAID IT".. maybe steal a car.. find a wooden crate with a few things in it.. maybe the guy left a safe unlocked.. WHOOT !! Thats fun!! Thats PVP!! Thats what we want!!!! BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH THESE CHANGES!! The devs are making it clear.. that you can "NOW LOSE EVERYTHING!" (not gonna lie.. after saying that in my head in a manly deep voice with echos.. I let the cursor just sit there and flash for awhile.. was epic!)

Anyway, this is where the SOLO players are completely screwed in these changes! AND THAT IS NOT BALANCED AT ALL! And NO, I dont want to go play on a PVE server! NOBODY PLAYS PVE! and the RP servers are just for retards!

Concrete mixers?? So now.. not only is my base made out of paper mache.. now you want me as a solo player to go get raped while trying to build a concrete wall? OH WAIT!!! I forgot... you are making those walls weaker too.. JUST SO THE LITTLE TROLLS AND GET TO YOUR FLAG.. WHERE NOW THE CAN STEAL IT!

MAKES NO DAMN SENSE! Why?? Because that SOLO player is  going to LEAVE EXILE FOR ANOTHER GAME... if he cannot find a server that has removed ALL THIS GARBAGE!@!!!!! 

Right now.. bases are fairly easy to get into(and that is not including glitches)!! If you time your raid or attack right.. you can catch a clan or player with their pants down and get some good gear!! THATS YOUR DAMN REWARD!! Taking their flag and ALL they own.. is the most stupid decision I have ever heard!! THAT PLAYER WILL LEAVE THE SERVER at the least!!! MARK MY WORDS!!!

In short.. if you want a hardcore server that offers this nonsense... THEN GO FIND ONE.. and you and you 5 friends can play patty cake... because thats all that will be on that server! WAR CRIES.. "WE REKT HIM!!!" you say that with your keyboard eballs and your group of 12 yr olds behind you.. You say you're "Gud"? Then lets see you play as a solo player for at least 1000 hours before YOU CAN OPEN YOUR MOUTH on this topic! Because I guarantee when this happens to your precious little heart and all your stuff has been stolen.. not only will you cry to mommy.. but you will leave the game! Now Im talking in general. .not to anyone specific. 

Let hope.. the devs balance this out.. I know its early and changes are coming and admins can change things... but as it stands now... these ideas are almost as bad as Brian Hicks ideas from DAYZSA . GG

Wooden walls need to be flammable. Because fire....

12 minutes ago, ViBrationNC said:

I agree... 

I mean.. you got the big house, gold rings, nice cars, pool, hot wife with fake tits.. etc.. now what? You enjoy life!! I get it..  So you buy a flag... build a nice base.. easy to defend.. put your cars inside.. safes with guns and poptabs.. so what do you do.. You can do whatever you want.. YOU MADE IT!! YOU'RE THERE.. RICH AND FAMOUS!! So lets say you attack someones base, "RAID IT".. maybe steal a car.. find a wooden crate with a few things in it.. maybe the guy left a safe unlocked.. WHOOT !! Thats fun!! Thats PVP!! Thats what we want!!!! BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH THESE CHANGES!! The devs are making it clear.. that you can "NOW LOSE EVERYTHING!" (not gonna lie.. after saying that in my head in a manly deep voice with echos.. I let the cursor just sit there and flash for awhile.. was epic!)

Anyway, this is where the SOLO players are completely screwed in these changes! AND THAT IS NOT BALANCED AT ALL! And NO, I dont want to go play on a PVE server! NOBODY PLAYS PVE! and the RP servers are just for retards!

Concrete mixers?? So now.. not only is my base made out of paper mache.. now you want me as a solo player to go get raped while trying to build a concrete wall? OH WAIT!!! I forgot... you are making those walls weaker too.. JUST SO THE LITTLE TROLLS AND GET TO YOUR FLAG.. WHERE NOW THE CAN STEAL IT!

MAKES NO DAMN SENSE! Why?? Because that SOLO player is  going to LEAVE EXILE FOR ANOTHER GAME... if he cannot find a server that has removed ALL THIS GARBAGE!@!!!!! 

 

Right now.. bases are fairly easy to get into(and that is not including glitches)!! If you time your raid or attack right.. you can catch a clan or player with their pants down and get some good gear!! THATS YOUR DAMN REWARD!! Taking their flag and ALL they own.. is the most stupid decision I have ever heard!! THAT PLAYER WILL LEAVE THE SERVER at the least!!! MARK MY WORDS!!!

 

In short.. if you want a hardcore server that offers this nonsense... THEN GO FIND ONE.. and you and you 5 friends can play patty cake... because thats all that will be on that server! WAR CRIES.. "WE REKT HIM!!!" you say that with your keyboard eballs and your group of 12 yr olds behind you.. You say you're "Gud"? Then lets see you play as a solo player for at least 1000 hours before YOU CAN OPEN YOUR MOUTH on this topic! Because I guarantee when this happens to your precious little heart and all your stuff has been stolen.. not only will you cry to mommy.. but you will leave the game! Now Im talking in general. .not to anyone specific. 

Let hope.. the devs balance this out.. I know its early and changes are coming and admins can change things... but as it stands now... these ideas are almost as bad as Brian Hicks ideas from DAYZSA . GG

Is mentioning 12yr olds and writing in caps a thing now ?

Comments are intended for constructive feedback, not for blaming each other. I recommend that you sit down and relax. Then check again when it is released. Then build your opinion. Crying like a little infant will not get you far, except into the hall of blame.

 This shows how much trust you guys have in us. Sad.